We are gradually dying of so many things there is limitless horizon for profit from our despair. While causes seem many, there is a primary underlying cause. A few species including man, became enzyme-deficient so their bodies can no longer create ascorbic from glucose. Ascorbic in sufficient dose-duration-context addresses nearly all of man's health issues. The illness-industries have "carefully looked away" for nearly a century. Put N=1 research into your own hands!

July 13, 2013

Materials & Equipment for DIY Liposomal Vitamin C

Ascorbic Acid + Lecithin + Distilled Water processed via Ultrasonic Machine or Sonicator

These are the components I use and might suggest if you're making Lipo-C.

Distilled water. This is fairly important especially if there are a lot of minerals in even your filtered water. By the way (unencapsulated-) ascorbic acid will bind to minerals, that's why it is good for metals detox, but that even includes good minerals so if you're taking them in your diet/supplements, do it separately from the ~ +/- 20 minute period of taking the C.

The following links have no commercial element (no amazon commission or anything), they are just to the products I personally chose.

Swanson brand Lecithin sunflower granules Non-Gmo 16 oz

Lekithos brand Lecithin sunflower Non-Gmo liquid cold-pressed

Kendal brand Ultrasonic machine budget but 2cup well + 8min cycles

Kendal brand Ultrasonic machine semi-budget but higher power, 2.5litre well + 8min cycles

For the machines, there are four main criteria:

1. Size of well. If you like the stuff, you'll get sick of making it and want to make more so you can take more, and wish you had a bigger machine. I did, anyway. And I started with a 2 cup size well which is much larger than many of the other budget versions. Note that the 2-cup size I got is big enough to clean jewelry, small parts and even CDs with due to its shape (most small ones won't fit CDs). If you also want to clean parts for things like machines, guns, musical instruments, etc. get the bigger machine that also does heat.

2. Duration of cycles. It only runs during the timer cycle you set. Most have 3 minute cycles which is stupid and I'm not going to stand there all day pushing the button. I only found two that had 8 minute cycles. I use four, 8-minute cycles for my lipo (many people use 5x 3-minute cycles, but I think it depends on many factors. You want to run it until most all the foam is gone. For me that's ~30 minutes, with breaks in between to let it cool down as the content heats up a bit naturally from the process).

3. Power of the machine. Obviously the more power the better and likely the longer it'll last with a lot of use.

4. Heat. The machines that are around $75 and up usually have a heater. If cleaning is your goal heat is very important. But if you're only using it for lipo-C it doesn't really matter, in fact you want to AVOID heat in this usage so you won't use the heater part.

* I could add that the decent size/handles/provision of some plastic basket form and some prop form for stuff you might wanna stick in there might matter. But for the lipo C you're using just the well plain. And note, you should never put any real weight directly on the bottom or sides of the machine (many who have that issue rig up something to 'suspend' it into the machine) as it will sooner or later mess up the way the machine works. Also note that these things don't have spouts and the container doesn't come out so you gotta dump the entire thing out into something (for me a real big pyrex mixing bowl that has a handle and spout). Also note that if there is 'space' between the side of the well and the plastic of the outer machine casing, you may end spilling the fluid into the innards of the machine. I would think a strip of tape of any kind over that on the side before you poured it out, if yours has that issue, could help with that.

On Lecithin.

OK so liquid lecithin is like blackstrap molasses but stickier. It'll stick to anything you try to measure it in, your fingers and so on. I tried to clean it off two of my fingers under running water and ended up looking like a 2 year old and had to find a towel to get it off. The only way to use this is to open the lid, tare your container you're pouring it into on a scale, then pour it in and measure by weight, use a knife to stop the flow. If you do that, it's easy to work with. Powdered crystals like above are oddly sticky so have their own messy element but nothing like the liquid.

For NON-GMO SUNFLOWER as source, I found the crystals for about $10 per 16oz (Swanson brand) and the liquid for about $20 per 16oz (with the crystals having $5 shipping and the liquid having $10 shipping). So the liquid is more. Note that I also got the kind that is "cold-pressed" and not solved with hexane so there may be cheaper liquid versions. Soy is cheaper.

Liquid lecithin is more instant if you're making lipo-C: you need to give more time to the granules to sit and blend with the water (like at least an hour, preferably overnight). For a batch that uses 1 cup of water for the lecithin it uses 3 Tbsp or about 45g of the lecithin.

For the lipospheric element:

The first thing that matters is temperature. The lecithin-water must be 90-110+ degrees F for the liposomal nature of the lecithin to 'open up.' (I have not been able to nail down the precise temp 'officially'.) As it cools it 'encapsulates' the liquid medium it's in, which in this case, is water which was ascorbic acid fully dissolved in it.

However AA is inactivated at around 115 degrees F (I also can't find official detail on this; another source I found says 158F) so you want to avoid hitting that.

The way I do it is to make and refrigerate dissolved AA-water. Then get blended lecithin-water to about 110-113 degrees F (I just nuke it, figure out how many uninterrupted seconds it takes a given amount to get to the temp I want, and from then on it's easy). Then add the ~40 degree refrigerated water and blend immediately. This way the temp of the AA-water brings down the temp of the Lec-water which is when the encapsulation is occurring.

The second thing that matters most is the 'sonicating' with the machine. This is not what makes it lipospheric you understand, the nature of phospholipids, the temperature discussed above, and the fact that the AA is truly dissolved in the water before it's blended with the lecithin-water, is the key there. However the machine is what basically "beats up the liposomes" at a molecular level (these machines look like almost nothing is happening to their fluid content, but are capable of exploding cells on a microscopic level -- don't be sticking your fingers in it) and when this happens the spheres re-form in smaller size. So the result is that the spheres are more numerous and smaller.

This allegedly causes them to be better directly absorbed and used by body tissues, because if the size is below 200 nanometers, the liver will simply send them off for direct use in the tissues rather than breaking them down locally first (which would defeat the purpose -- though it might be nice for the liver, but it's getting plenty already anyway with this mix -- because you need the spheres to stay intact until they reach the various body tissues and then get broken down to release their content).

I imagine that even using temperature and a blender without the machine still results in "some" degree of encapsulation, it's just that it is not likely to make it past the liver, which isn't to say that it might not have some benefit beyond simple AA anyway, who knows.

And I think that if you let the machine content get too hot it's possible that it just opens up and releases everything and reforms later much like it would if you hadn't used the machine to begin with, plus I think it's possible that a lot of the breaking up the size may result in less rather than more encapsulation -- however it would still be relevant in terms of having some <200nm sized spheres -- some have said this and it makes sense -- there is a lot of controversy on this topic.

Worst-case, you understand, is that you have some ascorbic acid (which you can buffer with baking soda if you wish) and some lecithin which are not merged-body-and-soul. Which is ok. Both of these are ridiculously good for you anyway.

The point of my making making and taking lipo-C initially was an experiment. I wanted to get more C into me without hitting the bowel tolerance limit.

So with the lipo, you could get the kind of quantity into you that you'd normally have to do intravenously but you're just drinking it. (It tastes vile thanks to the Lecithin and you will need orange juice or something to drink just before/after it to deal with that if you're a supertaster wimp like me.) Even if you take so much it gives you bowel flush on the non-encapsulated portion, if you're willing to put up with the inconvenience (obviously not chronically long term), you're still getting all the lipospheric benefit -- all that AA to tissues plus all that lecithin. Ideally sunflower not soy and ideally non-gmo (and if the liquid, ideally cold-pressed not hexane-solved).

The way it works

Phospholipids are heavily used in nerve coverings and the membrane of cells (and other things). Our body creates billions of cells a day, who knows on the nerve sheath measure. So the liver grabs the <200nm sized phospholipids and sends them out to the body tissues. When they get to the tissues, the cells and chemicals which help with this "break down" the phospholipids of the sphere to use them as building materials. When this happens, the 'encapsulated' stuff inside the microscopic spheres 'spills out' -- into the tissues in question. So it is a direct delivery of the liposomal content to the tissues.

True Liposomal C is said to get AA to tissues even faster than venous (IV) C. Now how well the home-made version works comparatively is another question.

My results

I'm still new to it (July 2013) but this stuff makes a huge difference for me and I mean huge, if I take at least half a cup a day preferably more, preferably a few times. For the first week I had this profound spine-nervous-system weariness that reminded me of once when I seriously overtrained on deadlifts, but each day it reduced and after a week it was gone. I think it was the lecithin literally filling in and fixing the myelin sheath of the nerves starting with the spine.

When I take it my body is vastly more 'competent', my mood is greatly more stable and patient, and the gazillion red bumps (keratosis pilaris) on the back of my upper arms went away (totally unexpected, hadn't even considered that until my teenager pointed it out with awe), as well as these thick-rough-skin places I had just under eath elbow.

My inflammation and bloating are both less, although the sense of "body-competence" -- not quite like strength or energy but like a sort of independent competence that doesn't make it suck all the energy out of my whole being -- is the most amazing part for me.

According to my kid I am more active, more cheerful, and nearly a different person, so she is heavily leaning on me to make it and take it a lot. I bought a bigger machine so I didn't have to make it constantly, could take a lot more and still have some for her too.


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